Post by felix on Nov 7, 2016 12:43:09 GMT 10
Interesting post from the il2 forum:
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Being someone who enjoys 100% of the in-game aircraft provided, and being mostly unbiased to any particular side, I have witnessed so many irrational arguments in comment sections and Forums, especially here, that I have grown to understand that you shouldn't judge an Aircraft by it's Enthusiasts.
My interest encompasses almost all types operating in the European and some in the Pacific and is rather broad, instead of needlessly in-depth.
These are the points I can already foresee coming up, just by the nature of the Aircraft.
-Light Elevators: Just like the Fw-190, the Spitfire had very light Elevators, which will be very sensitive to jerky movements and catch most allied Pilots off Guard and make their Aim Difficult.
-Spin and Stall: Here the Spitfire and 190 are quite similar as well. Both have somewhat of a rear-weight-bias and thus violent Departure. I have read many reports about Mk.I to Mk.IX and later, and all say that you had to respect the boundaries signalled by the Severe Shuddering and Vibrations set by the Inner Wing Section beginning to Stall in tight turns. If pulled beyond that point, even at high speeds, it would depart in a Violent Flicking Motion, tightening up in an accelerated Stall with up to Blackout G-Forces, resulting in a Spin with a Special Recovery Drill (unlike Soviet Types which are easily and intuitively recovered)
It differs from the Soviet Types which will become mushy and gently drop a wing slightly when close to stalling.
I think in the Stall and Spin department many of the same complaints as with the 190 will arise.
-Vision Forward: Will be as bad as MiG-3, generally vision forward will be far worse than all Russian types
-Vision Downward: blocked by massive Wings
-Ground Handling: The landing gear, unlike virtually all ingame types, is extremely narrow (narrower than 109) and close to the center of gravity, so many Pilots used to Soviet and German Style Landing Gears will have difficulty taxiing and not nosing over on landing. It will also be a Female Dog on Rough Ground, since the wing tips are likely to touch the ground, and it's general Ill-Suitedness for Soviet Airfield Conditions.
.Long Take-Off Run: It will have a Take-Off Run Similar in length to that off a LaGG-3, and worse when external ordnance is fitted.
.Maneuverability: It will have the worst Rate of Roll of Single Engine Fighters, more in line with the Bf110 and Pe-2. Turn will be good, but limited by the much more violent departure. The Good Power will even out a lot of the Airframes faults.
General Performance: Compared to the German Fighters it will be Outclassed in almost every way, and will require Tactics Similar to flying a Yak-1. It will not be able to Dictate the Terms of Combat. It's 2 years outdated.
Firepower: The seemingly good Firepower is only of use within Convergence Range. Above and below that you only every have 50%, analogous the a Bf109.
Apart from that I think it will make a decent general Dogfight Platform, but it has many similarities to the 190 when it comes to handling issues, especially Spin/Stalls.
It will most likely be in the same Class as a Yak-1b, slower, but better in a Climb.
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Interesting reading:
Spitfires over the Kuban
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Being someone who enjoys 100% of the in-game aircraft provided, and being mostly unbiased to any particular side, I have witnessed so many irrational arguments in comment sections and Forums, especially here, that I have grown to understand that you shouldn't judge an Aircraft by it's Enthusiasts.
My interest encompasses almost all types operating in the European and some in the Pacific and is rather broad, instead of needlessly in-depth.
These are the points I can already foresee coming up, just by the nature of the Aircraft.
-Light Elevators: Just like the Fw-190, the Spitfire had very light Elevators, which will be very sensitive to jerky movements and catch most allied Pilots off Guard and make their Aim Difficult.
-Spin and Stall: Here the Spitfire and 190 are quite similar as well. Both have somewhat of a rear-weight-bias and thus violent Departure. I have read many reports about Mk.I to Mk.IX and later, and all say that you had to respect the boundaries signalled by the Severe Shuddering and Vibrations set by the Inner Wing Section beginning to Stall in tight turns. If pulled beyond that point, even at high speeds, it would depart in a Violent Flicking Motion, tightening up in an accelerated Stall with up to Blackout G-Forces, resulting in a Spin with a Special Recovery Drill (unlike Soviet Types which are easily and intuitively recovered)
It differs from the Soviet Types which will become mushy and gently drop a wing slightly when close to stalling.
I think in the Stall and Spin department many of the same complaints as with the 190 will arise.
-Vision Forward: Will be as bad as MiG-3, generally vision forward will be far worse than all Russian types
-Vision Downward: blocked by massive Wings
-Ground Handling: The landing gear, unlike virtually all ingame types, is extremely narrow (narrower than 109) and close to the center of gravity, so many Pilots used to Soviet and German Style Landing Gears will have difficulty taxiing and not nosing over on landing. It will also be a Female Dog on Rough Ground, since the wing tips are likely to touch the ground, and it's general Ill-Suitedness for Soviet Airfield Conditions.
.Long Take-Off Run: It will have a Take-Off Run Similar in length to that off a LaGG-3, and worse when external ordnance is fitted.
.Maneuverability: It will have the worst Rate of Roll of Single Engine Fighters, more in line with the Bf110 and Pe-2. Turn will be good, but limited by the much more violent departure. The Good Power will even out a lot of the Airframes faults.
General Performance: Compared to the German Fighters it will be Outclassed in almost every way, and will require Tactics Similar to flying a Yak-1. It will not be able to Dictate the Terms of Combat. It's 2 years outdated.
Firepower: The seemingly good Firepower is only of use within Convergence Range. Above and below that you only every have 50%, analogous the a Bf109.
Apart from that I think it will make a decent general Dogfight Platform, but it has many similarities to the 190 when it comes to handling issues, especially Spin/Stalls.
It will most likely be in the same Class as a Yak-1b, slower, but better in a Climb.
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Interesting reading:
Spitfires over the Kuban